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"Have passport, will travel!" Power Member  |
I just saw the latest in camcorder technology today while shopping for electronics--at least the salesman said it is the latest. JVC (possibly other companies as well) is making a camcorder with a hard drive. No tape, no mini disc--just a hard drive. This would work beautifully with a DVD burner and I imagine the picture quality would be excellent. This might be a new toy worth saving for. Has anyone seen this or tried out one?
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"Frequent Traveller" Power Member  |
That's very interesting to hear. A logical development, but one I'd not seen. I wonder what its storage capacity, in terms of hours of video, is?
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HI Chris and Rarogirl, I have an advert for one here in Oz, in front of me - it is made by JVC. has a 2.12 Megapixel CCD, a 20Gb Drive, and claims 25 hours recording time (I presume of course at the lowest quality setting which would be pretty woeful, I would think) and has a 25x Optical Zoom Its price locally is AU$1198. Not a bad buy I would think.
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Ah - there we are - 7 hours of DVD quality video - but it looks like they have models with more capacity. http://www.jvc.com/presentations/everio_g/
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"Frequent Traveller" Power Member |
That's very interesting, Steve. I guess they're using notebook PC hard disk drives, which these days can have substantial capacity.
My hard disk DVD recorder can record about 60h of video in perfectly good quality on its 80GB drive, so there's no reason a camcorder with a similar capacity drive couldn't do likewise, I guess! Chris |
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Rarogirl, I R E A L L Y wish you didn't bring this to our (MY) attention  It's true, isn't it, by the time we get home with a new tech toy, it's already outdated. Did you happen to notice the size of the camera, as compared to a "normal" camcorder? I guess I'll just "happen"  to pass by "Circuit City." I wonder, does the "the devil made me do it" defense, still work? Thanks (I think), for the "heads up." Bob |
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"Have passport, will travel!" Power Member |
Bob, the camcorder was quite small, although a little "fat" compared to most mini cams. The salesman insisted I wouldn't mind its shape because it is extremely light weight. That is the one thing I don't like about my current JVC digital camcorder--it's compact but a bit heavy.
It was selling for $699, which isn't bad. I paid $800 for the one I have now, which I bought in 2002. Now similar cameras are going for a mere $300! So I think I might start a little fund for this camera. By the time I get the money together it will probably have been improved considerably! The one thing I did forget to ask about was how many hours of high quality video it will hold. So far, even on my longest trip, I have never filmed more than 90 minutes, so I would be happy if it held 3 or 4 hours worth. |
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RaroGirl, Thanks for the info. It would really be cool if the hard drive was removable and could be connected to a PC via a USB port. That would eliminate a time consuming step when transferring the video to the PC when it comes to editing and create a movie. I know we can presently do that via the camera, but, it would be so much easier not dragging out the camera and running cables. I think it's "doable" (have a removable drive) when one considers that the space required for a tape cassette wouldn't be needed. For all I know, maybe the drive IS removable and I'm on the backside of the knowledge curve. Considering that the cassette is replaced by a hard drive, I'm surprised that the camera is "extremely light weight." Interesting!.  Thanks again, Bob |
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"Have passport, will travel!" Power Member |
The discussion on another thread about taking stills with a video camera got me to wondering about stills on the new hard drive video cameras. I forgot to ask the salesman about that. I presume that this new camera will take stills and with a hard drive, perhaps they might be higher quality than what you usually get with a camcorder. Something to look into. I would love to have one camera that will do it all and do it all well.
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RaroGirl. I'm afraid that the fact that the camera stores its images on a HD instead of a card , wouldn't improve the quality of the still images. The issue is the limitations of the video camera's "image sensor" which is an electronic component called a CCD (charge-coupled device) . Two of my CamCorders have the "still" feature and, while the newer one (less than a year old) has definitely improved upon the older one, it does not even come close to a dedicated still camera. It is not a waste, however, because it makes an acceptable backup still camera, in the event, for whatever reason, (lost, stolen, broken, run out of cards or battery) your regular still camera is not available. Cheers, Bob PS I just looked at the JVC specs and it indicates that the camera produces a 2.12 mp image. This message has been edited. Last edited by: rmonturi, |
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"Have passport, will travel!" Power Member |
Thanks for checking it out, Bob. 2.12 mp image is much better than my current camcorder does, but still not good enough. Not being a techno wizard, it is hard for me to understand why they can't make a camera that excels at both. I would love to take just one camera on my travels.
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Rarogirl - just wait for it - but the cost will be phenomenal for at least 12 months - the technology is all there, it is not to difficult, but why bring the ultimate out now, whilst you can still get a few more dollars out of the suckers!
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My Sony DVD 803E takes stills that are effectively 3,048,000 pixels. Typical file size is 600 KB using JPEG.
As the lens is used for both modes it is something of a compromise, (Samsong make a camera with separate lenses for movie and still) but Carl Zeiss have done a great job and it takes as good as photo as I have had with a digital camera. I'll be happy to email a sample to anyone that wantys one. This message has been edited. Last edited by: Tangata, When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to make you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable. |
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Tangata - no need to brag!
 PS - how can you take a photo of god? (immortal, INVISIBLE, God only wise!) |
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Thanks Steve. (I think)
When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to make you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable. |
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