Wishing all you ladies (sorry "women" ) a wonderful day!

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Originally posted by dalene:
Wishing all you ladies a wonderful day!

Oh please, Dalene, what about those of us who are not ladies, but merely women? Gentility has never been my strong suit .

Dalene ~ I take my hat off to the women of yesteryear, they worked hard for shorter working hours, better pay and voting rights. we have a lot to be thankful for to these women.

Many women today still live in oppressed situations.

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Originally posted by Mallee:

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Originally posted by dalene:
Wishing all you ladies a wonderful day!

Oh please, Dalene, what about those of us who are not ladies, but merely women? Gentility has never been my strong suit .

So there is a difference? A "lady" is somebody who convey or maintain the appearance of refinement and elegance?

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Originally posted by dalene:
...So there is a difference? A "lady" is somebody who convey or maintain the appearance of refinement and elegance?

Yes. I can't even do that!!

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Originally posted by Mallee:

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Originally posted by dalene:
...So there is a difference? A "lady" is somebody who convey or maintain the appearance of refinement and elegance?

Yes. I can't even do that!!

My apologies, I was thinking in my own language. Yes, in that case I am also a women!

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Originally posted by Missie:
Dalene ~ I take my hat off to the women of yesteryear, they worked hard for shorter working hours, better pay and voting rights. we have a lot to be thankful for to these women.

Many women today still live in oppressed situations.

Missie ~ there are many great women of the past (and the present) who shaped us who we are today.

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Originally posted by dalene:
..My apologies, I was thinking in my own language. Yes, in that case I am also a women!

Dalene, you are multi-lingual, philanthropic, well-travelled and articulate. And probably good looking on top of everything. I think of you as a 'lady', no worries.

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Originally posted by Mallee:

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Originally posted by dalene:
..My apologies, I was thinking in my own language. Yes, in that case I am also a women!

Dalene, you are multi-lingual, philanthropic, well-travelled and articulate. And probably good looking on top of everything. I think of you as a 'lady', no worries.

I'm afraid I don't possess any of these qualities that you so generously bestow on me but thank you nevertheless!

Luckily I'm a farmlady.

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Originally posted by dalene:

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Originally posted by Mallee:

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Originally posted by dalene:
Wishing all you ladies a wonderful day!

Oh please, Dalene, what about those of us who are not ladies, but merely women? Gentility has never been my strong suit .

So there is a difference? A "lady" is somebody who convey or maintain the appearance of refinement and elegance?

Dalene: A quick comment. A "lady" is a social construct based on values that should be attained by the middle class in imitation of their betters. The social concept includes good manners, a degree of deliberate helplessness ("please open the door for me because I'm too weak to do it for myself, and you're such a big man etc etc . . .") It is a concept most feminists would use with tongue in cheek. The term, "woman" is more applicable.

As to the women on whose heads we stand, let me just say that I'm one of the ones who fought hard in my own country for women's rights over the own bodies (let's not, please, get into this), for extended and paid maternity leave and a sense of equality and equal opportunity available to all, an attitude which infused all my daily and professional life. I took the c*&^p passed out by many on the jeering of the term, political correctness, which has now completely lost its meaning and when people say it, they're usually sneering. I took the c&^%p when colleagues considered anybody interpreting anything from a feminist point of view was doing inferior work. I worked in a place where the men were excused from committees and thus free to write to their heart's content while women did most of the unpaid work of organizing and actually running the place. I could go on but I won't. I marched every year in our "Take Back the Night" march. Yet, still women are treated especially on your continent, sorry to say Dalene, like chattels and worse, and rape is still among the tools of tribal warfare.

Yet, it's a delight to wish you all Happy International Women's Day (has the date moved?) and to know there are women like you all out there to lead the next wave. The more right wing the world gets, Dalene, the more one has to stand on guard for women's rights. Imagine a big salute here to all of you.

Brenda

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Originally posted by BrendaC:
As to the women on whose heads we stand, let me just say that I'm one of the ones who fought hard in my own country for women's rights over the own bodies (let's not, please, get into this), for extended and paid maternity leave and a sense of equality and equal opportunity available to all, an attitude which infused all my daily and professional life. I took the c*&^p passed out by many on the jeering of the term, political correctness, which has now completely lost its meaning and when people say it, they're usually sneering. I took the c&^%p when colleagues considered anybody interpreting anything from a feminist point of view was doing inferior work. I worked in a place where the men were excused from committees and thus free to write to their heart's content while women did most of the unpaid work of organizing and actually running the place. I could go on but I won't. I marched every year in our "Take Back the Night" march. Yet, still women are treated especially on your continent, sorry to say Dalene, like chattels and worse, and rape is still among the tools of tribal warfare.

Yet, it's a delight to wish you all Happy International Women's Day (has the date moved?) and to know there are women like you all out there to lead the next wave. The more right wing the world gets, Dalene, the more one has to stand on guard for women's rights. Imagine a big salute here to all of you.

Brenda

Ahh Brenda, I was waiting for you to come online to cast new and interesting light on the subject! My mother, a rather formidable woman in her eighties - former Afrikaans, German and English teacher - is top on my most remarkable-women list.

Your mother, Dalene, sounds like a fabulous woman and so do you. Anyone who gives her time to those children as you do is tops in my books.

Brenda

Having a braai (barbeque) under Africa's sky and the brightest stars you can ever imagine with boerewors (traditional South African sausage) steaks and pap (traditional maize dish) and a good bottle of our Stellenbosch wines. Cheers B&B'ers!

My late great-grandmother was the daughter of one of our great Boere-generals (General Cristiaan de Wet ).A small lady with a will of steel. She died at the age of nearly a hundred years old. I was lucky to know her until I was 32 years old and she passed away. What a women.She teach us what a women should be.Soft and friendly but with a backbone of steel.
May you all be blessed on this womensday.