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Mallee ~ The fact that you were a single on tour may have had something to do with it. Some married ladies see a woman travelling on her own as a threat.

I encountered this problem on a tour in Canada, it wasn't until people found out that I was indeed married and that my husband didn't like coach tours that they started to treat me differently.

Its your own fault if you are ravishingly beautiful and turn all the men's heads. Big Grin


Missie ~ I hear you: on my tour a Kiwi-guy insisted to buy me a cuppuchino when he noticed that I didn't have enough Euro coins. His wife was waiting outside for him. I realized that she could make the wrong assumption so I went outside and thanked her for the coffee that her husband offered to buy me. They were a very nice couple. Smiler
My best moment: when an elderly Canadian gentleman asked me at breakfast: "So, young lady, where do you come from?" Smiler Need I say he was my favorite. Big Grin
 
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dalene, I can't think of a much more interesting person to have at my table. You could keep me enchanted night and day with the tales of your country. Smiler Missie's right you must be ravishingly beautiful and that's why they were trying to ignore you. Silly idjuts. Big Grin

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There is no sitting plan, but there are times when there are more than one Trafalgar tour for breakfast or dinner at the hotel dining room. We experienced this last May at the European Dream tour in Lucerne.

There were "Reserved for Trafalgar Tours" sign at the tables, but no specific tour name. So we just looked for tables where our tour mates sat and then joined them.

Travel N Learn


Yes - sit where you like. You learn where not to sit pretty quick ... Wink

I must admit I get sick of being asked questions all the time - often the same ones every night. I like the person who sits and eats and maybe tells me an interesting fact or 2. I don't really care what they do (ie work) or need to know personal details (what they're worth), how sick they are ...). I like to talk sport at times and will if anyone raises it. I like brekkie by myself (wife of course ... Smiler ) - and a coffee and paper.

I also enjoy a person who likes to sit - maybe in front of a log fire, or view, in a comfy chair - maybe with a dozing dog at his feet - and just enjoy the silence. Also someone who likes a quiet beer/wine/port etc - and doesn't see a need to tell me their life story - ie a person who is confident enough in themselves to just sit and enjoy the moment.

My only tip then ... Wink ... if you run into "me" - I'm not being rude - I just like time to myself.

We met a lovely couple on one TT Tour. He said very little, but what he said was spot on and worth knowing. She talked a bit to my wife and I listened and added my two cents worth at times. The two men (me and him) tended to have a few cleansing ales and just comment at times on various things (eg fellow travellers ... Smiler ). At the end of the night I mentioned I'd enjoyed our dinner and talk and she looked a bit shocked - she felt I'd think her other half was too quiet/reserved/snobby.

I think she was glad to have found another "one" ... Cool

We had a few dinners together and nodded at brekkie as we passed.

Mind you - I could be completely wrong ... Smiler


Saint Mike, despite what may seem to be my verbal incontinence on this site, I too like quiet moments. Smiler I don't like (hate actually) much small talk and I don't chat or yak easily about nothing, even if they're sweet nothings (well, it's been a while). Smiler Roll Eyes I'm positively comatose first thing in the morning and it's all I can do to breathe, eat, and walk.

However, I also find it awkward to ignore people sitting at the same table especially when we're part of a group. So, given that awkwardness, I tend to ask those questions you may hate but they're the only ones I can come up with given the above social challenges: "where are from" "what do you do" how are you enjoying the tour." If those questions are answered as curtly as they seem to be asked, with one-word responses, I usually go back to convening silently with my wine (not at breakfast I hasten to add). Wink Wink Most of all, I plead, albeit silently, with people to appreciate things with their eyes not their mouths.

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Most of all, I plead, albeit silently, with people to appreciate things with their eyes not their mouths.

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Oh the joys of a TT-tour! That's why I loved a little solitude in my room as a single... all the small talk albeit interesting makes one sooo tired. Big Grin
 
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Brenda ~ I know I'm diverting again but want to tell you that I've been thinking today about you and Chris Mariott's thread a while ago that touched me deeply. It was about the simpleness of life, not having / needing so many things. Do you remember? I put my house up for sale last Friday and it was sold today. As I walked through the rooms today making a list of what I am leaving behind and what I am taking with me, I was confronted with the very same thing: one does not need a lot of stuff. Smiler
 
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Brenda ~ I know I'm diverting again but want to tell you that I've been thinking today about you and Chris Mariott's thread a while ago that touched me deeply. It was about the simpleness of life, not having / needing so many things. Do you remember? I put my house up for sale last Friday and it was sold today. As I walked through the rooms today making a list of what I am leaving behind and what I am taking with me, I was confronted with the very same thing: one does not need a lot of stuff. Smiler


Oh Dalene: Congratulations, dear, on selling your house so quickly. I wish you much good fortune in your next endeavour Smiler Smiler Smiler and with your attitude good fortune will find its way to you. Smiler

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I think "simplicity" was a better word? Red Face Red Face
 
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I suspect that we were a coachload of St Mikes, and that I tried too hard to be friendly.


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There is no sitting plan, but there are times when there are more than one Trafalgar tour for breakfast or dinner at the hotel dining room. We experienced this last May at the European Dream tour in Lucerne.

There were "Reserved for Trafalgar Tours" sign at the tables, but no specific tour name. So we just looked for tables where our tour mates sat and then joined them.

Travel N Learn


Yes - sit where you like. You learn where not to sit pretty quick ... Wink

I must admit I get sick of being asked questions all the time - often the same ones every night. I like the person who sits and eats and maybe tells me an interesting fact or 2. I don't really care what they do (ie work) or need to know personal details (what they're worth), how sick they are ...). I like to talk sport at times and will if anyone raises it. I like brekkie by myself (wife of course ... Smiler ) - and a coffee and paper.

I also enjoy a person who likes to sit - maybe in front of a log fire, or view, in a comfy chair - maybe with a dozing dog at his feet - and just enjoy the silence. Also someone who likes a quiet beer/wine/port etc - and doesn't see a need to tell me their life story - ie a person who is confident enough in themselves to just sit and enjoy the moment.

My only tip then ... Wink ... if you run into "me" - I'm not being rude - I just like time to myself.

We met a lovely couple on one TT Tour. He said very little, but what he said was spot on and worth knowing. She talked a bit to my wife and I listened and added my two cents worth at times. The two men (me and him) tended to have a few cleansing ales and just comment at times on various things (eg fellow travellers ... Smiler ). At the end of the night I mentioned I'd enjoyed our dinner and talk and she looked a bit shocked - she felt I'd think her other half was too quiet/reserved/snobby.

I think she was glad to have found another "one" ... Cool

We had a few dinners together and nodded at brekkie as we passed.

Mind you - I could be completely wrong ... Smiler


Saint Mike, despite what may seem to be my verbal incontinence on this site, I too like quiet moments. Smiler I don't like (hate actually) much small talk and I don't chat or yak easily about nothing, even if they're sweet nothings (well, it's been a while). Smiler Roll Eyes I'm positively comatose first thing in the morning and it's all I can do to breathe, eat, and walk.

However, I also find it awkward to ignore people sitting at the same table especially when we're part of a group. So, given that awkwardness, I tend to ask those questions you may hate but they're the only ones I can come up with given the above social challenges: "where are from" "what do you do" how are you enjoying the tour." If those questions are answered as curtly as they seem to be asked, with one-word responses, I usually go back to convening silently with my wine (not at breakfast I hasten to add). Wink Wink Most of all, I plead, albeit silently, with people to appreciate things with their eyes not their mouths.

Brenda


Sorry BC - I'd never be deliberately (knowingly ?) rude to anyone (don't ask my wife ... Wink ). If I felt they were lonely or left out of things I'd probably break my "rule" - I always hate it, if it looks like some are being left out - for whatever reason.


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I know you'd never be deliberately rude Saint Mike. I too can't stand people being left out, and would tend to make sure people were comfortable. I can't stand tales of singles being asked to move because a couple wanted to sit together. This to me is the height of boorishness. Being single on tour is not a disease Roll Eyes, right?

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I know you'd never be deliberately rude Saint Mike. I too can't stand people being left out, and would tend to make sure people were comfortable. I can't stand tales of singles being asked to move because a couple wanted to sit together. This to me is the height of boorishness. Being single on tour is not a disease Roll Eyes, right?

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And it's even worse when it's the TD that asks the single person to move...as a matter of fact, several years ago I was the only single on a full (49 person) tour and after the first two days, the TD had the gall to ask me to wait till everybody else has been seated before taking a seat...

But then again this same TD, well I couldn't believe this, but it did happen...the TD set up the rotation but if you're familiar with a TT coach, there are 49 seats and one seat, the one in the middle of the back row, is very very uncomfortable, has no place to lean forward and say fill out a form...

Well anyway, on the first day, the TD called me over of all people and explained the tour was full and that the extra seat in the back row would present a problem in rotation and suggested to me that I could make things easier for everybody by agreeing to always take that seat...I couldn't believe it. When I said no way Jose, at least he didn't press the point but to even suggest it, well I don't have words to describe it.
 
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I must admit I get sick of being asked questions all the time - often the same ones every night. I like the person who sits and eats and maybe tells me an interesting fact or 2. I don't really care what they do (ie work) or need to know personal details (what they're worth), how sick they are ...). I like to talk sport at times and will if anyone raises it. I like brekkie by myself (wife of course ... Smiler ) - and a coffee and paper.



Another poster & I were discussing only the other day how some have forgotten how nice are the sounds of silence. Pity! Frowner

I am really over those who feel the need to fill every silent minute with the sounds of their own voices particularly when confined to the coach.


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And it's even worse when it's the TD that asks the single person to move...as a matter of fact, several years ago I was the only single on a full (49 person) tour and after the first two days, the TD had the gall to ask me to wait till everybody else has been seated before taking a seat...

But then again this same TD, well I couldn't believe this, but it did happen...the TD set up the rotation but if you're familiar with a TT coach, there are 49 seats and one seat, the one in the middle of the back row, is very very uncomfortable, has no place to lean forward and say fill out a form...

Well anyway, on the first day, the TD called me over of all people and explained the tour was full and that the extra seat in the back row would present a problem in rotation and suggested to me that I could make things easier for everybody by agreeing to always take that seat...I couldn't believe it. When I said no way Jose, at least he didn't press the point but to even suggest it, well I don't have words to describe it.


Matha ~ IMO all of the above is unforgivable Mad A couple have booked their seats merely as 2 singles they don't deserve any more privilege than a solo.


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Mallee ~ The fact that you were a single on tour may have had something to do with it. Some married ladies see a woman travelling on her own as a threat.
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This has happened with me from time to time on trips I have done. I have never let myself feel uncomfortable about it, and try my best to make friends with all the ladies because I am there to enjoy my holiday and make new friends, not to run off with someone elses husband.

I sit with as many people as I possibly can on a tour so I get to know everyone. Occasionally I have moved to another table so that a couple can sit together, it is no hardship, you never end up sitting alone and people respect you and will appreciate you more for it.


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And it's even worse when it's the TD that asks the single person to move...as a matter of fact, several years ago I was the only single on a full (49 person) tour and after the first two days, the TD had the gall to ask me to wait till everybody else has been seated before taking a seat...

But then again this same TD, well I couldn't believe this, but it did happen...the TD set up the rotation but if you're familiar with a TT coach, there are 49 seats and one seat, the one in the middle of the back row, is very very uncomfortable, has no place to lean forward and say fill out a form...

Well anyway, on the first day, the TD called me over of all people and explained the tour was full and that the extra seat in the back row would present a problem in rotation and suggested to me that I could make things easier for everybody by agreeing to always take that seat...I couldn't believe it. When I said no way Jose, at least he didn't press the point but to even suggest it, well I don't have words to describe it.


Good for you Matha531: you are giving me guidelines for my next tour as a single. Smiler
 
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