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Hi All, Great to see all of you taking an interest in the forum.I enjoy reading all your comments .I have 2 quotes for you all to think about. QUOTE "There are no bad questions except those not asked." and Quote "knowlede come but wisdom lingers. Happy holidays. Kathy
 
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Thank you everyone. You've given me plenty to think about.

Tammie, if you're on board, can you tell us how long it took to (a) write your tale (b) post the photos? Did you find it a chore, or did it bring back happy memories about which you enjoyed writing?



Hi Mallee!
Sorry it took me so long to get here!
Thanks to those who let me know Mallee was looking for me! Smiler

I'll just answer these specific questions as I'm not sure how this thread has developed (the garden is calling me = no time to read the whole thread!) Cool

I wrote a journal for about 7-8 days of the total 12. That REALLY helped me. So many things and details to remember. Next time I would do my journal in point form. I wrote every night before I went to bed and sometimes on the coach but the Italian countryside usually won my attention! Smiler

I was anxious to tale it here on the board for many reasons - the most important one being that it seemed only right to present a tale in return for all the help I had received in preparing the four of us for our journey from so many wonderful and informative bulletin board members.

Although it was laborious to make it happen there are other super great reasons to do it. One being is that hopefully it will be here for a long time to come (I have it saved on my computer as well) for other Italian voyagers to enjoy and it is something that I will always look back on and cherish as a very special time shared with my Mom and best two friends.

I wrote it all in Word - noted the photos in brackets that I wanted to include and then when I went to post it - I just linked up the photos where I had made the typed notes. Linking up the photos took the longest and because each travel day was lengthy and I took so many pictures - I wanted it to be just right.

I truly had a blast doing the whole thing and I'm the kind of person that likes to see things through to the end once I've started it.

The responses I received were so overwhelmingly lovely that I was inspired to keep going to the very end of the 12th day. It fueled my tour tale fire let's say! Smiler

I have had two other friends plan a trip to Italy and they have visited the board as a guest to just read our 12 days AND many other friends of ours have come here as well to escape reality for a while and get a taste of Italy.

So yes - it took a while to do it and yes .. I enjoyed writing it ... and YES I still pull it up every once in a while and relive it through my own eyes.

Therefore - YES - I highly recommend posting a tale as it is therapeutic - helpful - forever engraved in your travel memory and something to cherish forever! Smiler

I hope this has helped and if you need me Mallee - post in any of my tour tale threads and I'll come running!
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Thanks to those who let me know Mallee was looking for me! Smiler Yes, thanks, oh mysterious denizens of the board

I'll just answer these specific questions as I'm not sure how this thread has developed Nor am I, to be honest! ...

So many things and details to remember. Next time I would do my journal in point form. That's funny. I'd promised myself that next time I'd write a fuller journal, because I couldn't remember the details of the points! I wrote every night before I went to bed ... Yes, that's what I did, and I found that sometimes I couldn't even remember the details of the day. Sometimes, I referred myself to my expenses sheet, (which I could fill out in 3 mins here and 1 min there throughout the day) but it was certainly time-consuming.Smiler

I was anxious to tale it here on the board for many reasons - the most important one being that it seemed only right to present a tale in return for all the help I had received in preparing the four of us for our journey from so many wonderful and informative bulletin board members. Very good! I'm not sure that I would have put up anything had I not been pressed!

Although it was laborious to make it happen there are other super great reasons to do it. ..it is something that I will always look back on and cherish as a very special time shared with my Mom and best two friends. Yes, my journal is doing that already, as well as being a source for emails, a couple of articles, and an essay for my German class!

I wrote it all in Word - noted the photos in brackets that I wanted to include and then when I went to post it - I just linked up the photos where I had made the typed notes. Linking up the photos took the longest and because each travel day was lengthy and I took so many pictures - I wanted it to be just right. As it was. Indeed it was. It also added to the other Italian tales to make me think that maybe Italy wouldn't be such a bad place to tour after all!

I truly had a blast doing the whole thing and ...The responses I received were so overwhelmingly lovely that I was inspired to keep going to the very end of the 12th day. It fueled my tour tale fire let's say! Smiler Ah! So acknowledgements are important.

I have had two other friends plan a trip to Italy and they have visited the board as a guest to just read our 12 days AND many other friends of ours have come here as well to escape reality for a while and get a taste of Italy. That's wonderful!

So yes - it took a while to do it and yes .. I enjoyed writing it ... and YES I still pull it up every once in a while and relive it through my own eyes.

Therefore - YES - I highly recommend posting a tale as it is therapeutic - helpful - forever engraved in your travel memory and something to cherish forever! Smiler

I hope this has helped and if you need me Mallee - post in any of my tour tale threads and I'll come running! Thanks, Tammie. That has been helpful. I hadn't considered that writing a tour tale might be beneficial to the writer, but it's obvious, once you pointed it out. Hope you get around to reading this response, even tho' it's not on your tour tale!
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Jeannie ~ do you think it made a difference that you are also experienced in group touring? Obviously you are an easy going soul, but I would think also you would not have unreasonable expectations. Someone, sorry can't remember who, said the other day that if some did more research they would be more aware of what to expect & not post negatively. I don't mean that this is the case on every occasion, but on some I am sure it is.


Yes, I am quite sure it made a difference. However, I also researched my first tour for a year and a half before I took it so I knew what to expect. Was I totally prepared? No but I think a lot of people's expectations could be more in line if they did more research before they went. Having said that, you can do all the research in the world and it won't help if you get an inadequate TD. That's just the luck of the draw, I'm afraid.


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Jeannie: I envy the fact that you take the world as it comes and seem pleased with everything. That is a talent not all of us possess I'm afraid. Sometimes, I think I've just lived too long, have had too many really high points, to ever be satisfied with less. So, yes, my expectations may be a bit high, but I do call it as I see it, usually, and it's often not the most diplomatic way to proceed. But no-one and no tour and no TD is perfect. You have the right idea. Go along to get along and you don't let anything get under your skin. I'm envious. Smiler I'm always busy "changing the world," asking the awkward questions, tilting at windmills--still crazy after all these years, as Paul Simon would say. Wink

But, a brief anecdote--on our tour, a tour mate made a nasty anti-semitic comment to get a laugh not realizing I was behind him, if he realized anything at all. Did it bother me? You're darn tooting it did. Now, would you have let it pass?

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I wouldn't say I take the world as it comes and I don't think I said I am pleased with everything. If that's the way my post was interpreted then I apologize. There is nothing wrong in standing up for yourself. In fact, a fellow Canadian made a racial remark to another tour member and I was so embarrassed that a countryman would do something like that so I did speak up. Believe me, I am not afraid to speak up when the situation warrants it.

I'm talking more about every day tour type stuff that some people come back complaining about. Some people get really bent out of shape over things that I consider to be inconsequential. A racial remark does not fall into this category.


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Tammie, thanks for the advice and I'm sure many would be tour tellers would use. I have printed yours out to read at leisure and enjoy as I start the count down for December (a little early I know). Apart from your entertaining writing I also enjoyed your great photos, mainly I think because people were included in many(people enjoying themselves and that rubs off Smiler ) I trust your next tour is not too far away as I look forward to another Tammie Tour Tale. cheers R
 
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I'm talking more about every day tour type stuff that some people come back complaining about. Some people get really bent out of shape over things that I consider to be inconsequential.


LOL Big Grin We had a guy on one tour who moaned & groaned at every breakfast about how bad it was & what was lacking & how it could be improved. By day 6 I wanted to do him serious damage & through gritted teeth asked him what he usually ate for breakfast at home. Answer - nil, he doesn't eat breakfast at home. So I suggested then that anything he got on tour was a bonus compared to what he was used to. Roll Eyes


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I think this guy was on my last tour, sounds so familiar!!

Just give me a cup of coffee, toast or muesli and an orange for breakfast, anything else is a bonus and certainly in excess of what I would eat normally.

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It's pretty crazy isn't it? There are some people in the world who are just not happy unless they are complaining and feeling that the world is against them.

Something would have to be pretty seriously wrong before I would not be having a good time. I'm probably more like Jeannie118 in that let's really look at things. In my view, you're on a vacation, you're not at home working. You're able to afford a vacation and are being fed. Besides, most things if they are off make a good story and something to laugh about later. That's not to say if there was something such as the racial goings on that would be OK ... I would definitely chime in if that sort of nonsense was going on.

I live by 'is it a problem, or is it a fact'? 98% of the things in the world are just facts and there's really nothing you can do about facts for the most part. Is it worth the energy getting all in an uproar about something you can't do anything about?

For example -- your hotel room is unsatisfactorily dirty. It's a problem that you can do something about -- you can phone down and get it cleaned. If you don't like the location of the room and the hotel is full, it's just a fact that you can't do anything about.

I hope I'm explaining it well enough???!!!
 
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Dimpz

I think this guy was on my last tour, sounds so familiar!!

Just give me a cup of coffee, toast or muesli and an orange for breakfast, anything else is a bonus and certainly in excess of what I would eat normally.

14 more sleeps


Funny, we had the same guy, not only on our tour, but down in the Caribbean where the buffets for breakfast, lunch and dinner are gargantuan, and still the complaints. Roll Eyes I don't get it when most wouldn't have anything like those breakfasts at home. Mad

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I'm talking more about every day tour type stuff that some people come back complaining about. Some people get really bent out of shape over things that I consider to be inconsequential.


LOL Big Grin We had a guy on one tour who moaned & groaned at every breakfast about how bad it was & what was lacking & how it could be improved. By day 6 I wanted to do him serious damage & through gritted teeth asked him what he usually ate for breakfast at home. Answer - nil, he doesn't eat breakfast at home. So I suggested then that anything he got on tour was a bonus compared to what he was used to. Roll Eyes


Dimpz, that is too funny! I really think some people just like to complain! We had a woman on one tour who everyone was soon trying to avoid because all she did was complain. After about the third day, she started complaining that she was tired of being on the coach and wanted to go home. It wasn't long before several of us would have happily all chipped in to buy her a plane ticket home!

Now, I am not saying that I don't get tired on a tour. But I consider it such a blessing that I soak up and enjoy every minute of it as much as I can. I think when you have to save every penny to be able to travel, you appreciate it more.


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It's pretty crazy isn't it? There are some people in the world who are just not happy unless they are complaining and feeling that the world is against them.

Something would have to be pretty seriously wrong before I would not be having a good time. I'm probably more like Jeannie118 in that let's really look at things. In my view, you're on a vacation, you're not at home working. You're able to afford a vacation and are being fed. Besides, most things if they are off make a good story and something to laugh about later. That's not to say if there was something such as the racial goings on that would be OK ... I would definitely chime in if that sort of nonsense was going on.

I live by 'is it a problem, or is it a fact'? 98% of the things in the world are just facts and there's really nothing you can do about facts for the most part. Is it worth the energy getting all in an uproar about something you can't do anything about?

For example -- your hotel room is unsatisfactorily dirty. It's a problem that you can do something about -- you can phone down and get it cleaned. If you don't like the location of the room and the hotel is full, it's just a fact that you can't do anything about.

I hope I'm explaining it well enough???!!!


Joolz, you have it in a nutshell. That is exactly how I feel. Try to fix the things that you can fix but otherwise, go with the flow. Some things you can't do anything about so it's not worth getting upset about. In my humble opinion.

And you're right - they do make good stories later on. Smiler


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Great Canadian minds think alike! Maybe it's a thing for Canadians -- like Canadian's have a reputation for being very polite! Maybe we're just laid back as well.

I tell you, I'm going on European Cavalcade on Sept 1 (yes, 11 more sleeps) and I'm really looking forward to it. I don't really care what happens, I'm having a good time no matter what! Even if something is off a bit, I'll be able to make it into an amusing story for my trip journal / tour tale!
 
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Great Canadian minds think alike! Maybe it's a thing for Canadians -- like Canadian's have a reputation for being very polite! Maybe we're just laid back as well.

I tell you, I'm going on European Cavalcade on Sept 1 (yes, 11 more sleeps) and I'm really looking forward to it. I don't really care what happens, I'm having a good time no matter what! Even if something is off a bit, I'll be able to make it into an amusing story for my trip journal / tour tale!


Joolz ~ Canada have such a vast, conglomerate of many diverse cultures - I'm just interested -in a multicultural nation how do you find a common identity? D. Smiler
 
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So true. I don't know how you do. I know when I travel people always say 'you must be Canadian because you're so polite'.

Frankly, I've met very polite people from everywhere!
 
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